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Seattle-North Clinic Talks about Brass – March 6, 2014

By Jeff Moorman

Please join us for our next meeting on Thursday, March 6, 2014. Our guest speaker will be a railroad enthusiast and brass collector.

If you weren’t there for last month’s guest speaker, you missed a very interesting and entertaining evening. Dave Honan is a civil engineer for HDR here in Seattle and he specializes in railroad and transit design in 12 inches to the foot scale. We also discovered he is an excellent railroad photographer and slide show producer.

Dave talked about some projects he’s been involved with which varied from coal hauling railroads across the Great Plains to local transit works. Hearing about everything he has had to deal with was fascinating. He mentioned lots of things I had never considered before. Here are a couple:

When you plan the route of a railroad in varied terrain, not only do you need to look for a pretty steady grade, but you should match the volume of material in cuts to the volume of material used for fills. That cuts down on earth “moving” costs.

Another item of design concerns coping with grades that have curvature. A curve adds drag to the train. So if you have a big curve in the middle of a long grade, when the train rounds that curve it till get harder to pull. The prototype solution is to reduce the grade through the curve, so there is a more consistent drag. For example, consider a long 2% grade with a 90 degree curve in the middle. The basic grade might be designed at 2.25% with a reduction to 1.5% through the curve in order to even out the motive power effort required to get to the top of the hill.

Dave finished out the evening by showing a couple of photo presentations he has done. My favorite included scenes from a narrow gauge peat railroad in Ireland (I think).

For show and tell Dennis T brought along an N scale model of a U-50 locomotive. He had added a decoder to the older loco, which was quite heavy. He said it pulls like gangbusters.

I brought along a kit for the Penryn Fruit Company. This is a small wood HO structure that will be the standard kit for a special contest at the regional convention in June. Everyone in the contest builds the same kit using the same basic rules. You can find out more on the convention’s website – http://www.wnrr.net/PSX2014/contests.html. Now that I have the kit I guess I shall have to build it, especially since it looks pretty straightforward.

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is March 6. The meeting after that is April 3. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Clinic Gets Civil – February 6, 2014

By Jeff Moorman

Please join us for our next meeting on Thursday, February 6, 2014. Our guest speaker will be a railroad engineer. Not an engine driver, but a civil engineer who works on local 12 inch to the foot scale railroad projects. I have also been told he is an excellent railroad photographer and we may see some of his work, if there is time.

As I write this another Pacific Science Center Model Railroad Show has been completed. As near as we can tell, this was the 40th such show and if you were there to help on Saturday, you might have gotten a piece of the delicious anniversary cake. My personal thanks to all the Seattle-North Clinic attendees who came to the show to volunteer, especially Bobj, Dennis T, Norm C, Michael, and anyone whose name I missed.

I apologize for not getting a notice in the Grab Iron about our January clinic. I could not get the blog to upload my submission. And it was not just me as others had the same problem. As luck would have it, it did not clear up until after the clinic. So, I’ll include that write-up towards the end of this column

The missing notice and some wicked colds (flu?) going around thinned our ranks for the January meeting. The latter even got our guest speaker. Regardless the evening turned out rather interesting, which is often the case when you get a few experienced model railroaders together.

Roger F had brought several HO gauge locomotives that he was thinning from his collection. Much of the evening went like this:

  1. Roger would say a few words about a particular locomotive and sometimes how he acquired it.
  2. Folks around the table would chime in with what they knew about that locomotive, the railroad it ran on, and/or the model’s manufacturer.
  3. Cycle back to the first step above for the next locomotive.

Roger is an eclectic collector and so was the discussion. All the old dogs learned a new thing or two during the course of the discussions.

For January’s show and tell Dennis T brought along an N scale model of an electric locomotive. It was painted for the Pennsy, but likely had European origins, which no one could precisely identify. But that was not what made it so interesting. Dennis had re-motored it by cannibalizing a motor from a more recent diesel model.

Now for what happened at December’s meeting. Our own Dennis T discussed the installation of DCC decoders. This was not how to plug a decoder into a DCC-ready locomotive, but how to install one in an older locomotive that wasn’t designed for one. And, as if that wasn’t difficult enough, he did it in N scale.

Dennis started with the premise that a successful decoder installation starts with finding the right decoder. He outlined a 6-step process for this:

  1. The right fit – you have to find a decoder that will fit within the locomotive, whether in an existing space or space you “carve” out for it.
  2. The right current draw – the decoder needs to be able to handle the current the motor will need. Older motors may draw significantly more current than newer ones. However, the more current a decoder must handle, the larger the decoder must be. You may have to do a little testing on your locomotive first to see what it draws.
  3. Motor control – this is not so much a function of the decoder, but an analysis of whether or not you can electrically isolate the motor from the frame and run power from the tracks to the decoder and then to the motor.
  4. Lighting functions – so you need to do more than just control the headlights. If so, you need a decoder designed to handle more than the basics.
  5. Sound – sound adds another element of realism, but it takes room to install the speaker, which must be in a sealed enclosure to work property. The bigger the speaker, the better the sound. According to Dennis, the sound you get from an N scale speaker is not worth the effort to shoehorn it into a space not made for it.
  6. Use you resources – there is a ton of information on the web regarding DCC, decoders, and decoder installation. Do your homework. Very likely it will prevent you from making a mistake (or two, or three).

Dennis then walked through a typical decoder installation, using examples he had done. He said not to be intimidated, if you need to remove some of the locomotive weight to make room for the decoder or the wiring. You can do it with simple files and a motor tool. Just remove the weight from the chassis and “whittle” it away slowly and carefully.

Dennis ended with a couple of tips. One was to try and test as you go. For example, if it doesn’t run after everything is put together, how do you know the issue was not caused by putting the shell back on the locomotive? And, you did remember to test everything thoroughly before you took it apart to add the decoder, right? Another tip was to make sure to insulate all the wiring, using Teflon tape or heat shrink tubing.

Dec13 Dennis T Decoder Tools

Everyone was reminded of the need for volunteers to help with the upcoming Pacific Science Center Model Railroad Show on the 18th, 19th, and 20th of January, 2014. This will be the fortieth such show and so some may take it for granted. But don’t forget it helps fund the activities of the Fourth Division, including this clinic.

For show and tell Chris F brought another HO passenger car he had acquired. Chris explained he was not just trying to paint these in UP colors, but to paint Milwaukee Road cars in UP colors as used on certain long haul passenger trains. This month he brought an observation car factory painted for the UP. His plan had been to remove the UP lettering, leaving the UP colors, and apply Milwaukee lettering. He was able to carefully remove the lettering, but in doing so discovered that the underlying paint job wasn’t up to his standards, so will now need to be repainted – exactly what he was trying not to do.

Bob R brought several commercial trucks in HO scale. These were simple toy trucks he had reworked to make more prototypical and, therefore, more useful on a model railroad layout. Bob thought that mud flaps were one addition that really made all these trucks more realistic. Another key “upgrade” was to weather the cargo area of dump and flatbeds. Other additions included mirrors, air filters, and painted on lights.

Dec 13 Bob R HO Trucks

Dec13 Bob R HO Trucks 2

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is February 6. The meeting after that is March 6. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Discusses Decoder Installation on December 5, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Please join us for our next meeting, this Thursday, December 5, when our topic will be DCC decoder installations.

Last meeting Tom K took on the subject of track planning software. He was going to just cover free track planning programs, but since there only appear to be three contenders in this category he branched out a bit.

Tom started with the three freeware offerings he found: SCARM (www.scarm.info/index_en.html), TrainCad (www.traincad.com), and XTrackCAD (www.xtrkcad.org).

SCARM, which stands for Simple Computer Aided Railway Modeller, is the one Tom has spent the most time with. He used it for demonstrating the typical features one can expect in these programs. The very basic drawing features seem about the same, but there is quite a bit of variety in the how they are implemented. But more detailed features, such as the ability to do 3-D drawings, add structures and scenery, or run animated trains over the track plans you create, are not universally available.

And, although the developers of these programs may disagree, none of the features in any program seemed intuitive. You are going to have to dedicate some time to learning whichever automated track planning tool you choose. And, what you learn about one program may not necessarily carry over to another. For example, I personally have a couple of hours into XTrackCAD and do not feel I can really use it to design anything yet.

On the plus side, at least for these three, the price is right. You don’t have to invest any money to give them a whirl.

Tom then briefly covered some of the track planning programs that are for sale. Most of this was based on a MR article, entitled “Guide to Track-Planning Software”, that appeared a few years ago. It covered 3rd PlanIt from El Dorado Software, CadRail from Sandia Software, and AnyRail from DRail Modelspoor Software.

All three of these products have demo versions that allow you to “play” with the product before making a purchase decision. These versions are either limited in size of the layout depicted or in the ability to save results.

There is also another commercial program Tom found that apparently wasn’t available when the MR article was written. It is called WINTRACK (www.wintrack.de/usa.html). It was created in Germany, but there is now an English version.

The MR article was not a comparison or review, merely a “guide.” Therefore, there was no clear winner. In fact, the general impressions seemed about the same as for freeware offerings: (1) they do not all implement functions the same way: (2) they do not all have the same specialty features; and (3) you need to invest some time to learn to use them.

Sorry, we couldn’t tell you to just go get a single “magic bullet” track planning package that will do everything. You will need to invest some time analyzing your needs and what the market is offering. It some ways it might be like deciding on a DCC system. They all work, but just what features do you need, at what price,  and is there anyone around that can help you with it? Note that Tom’s research was not exhaustive, so you may find other programs out there.

For Show and Tell Chris F brought some used HO passenger cars he had acquired. They looked as if the previous owner had gotten half way through a truck replacement project before giving up. Chris’ challenge will be to complete the truck replacements and apply a UP paint scheme.

Dennis T brought an N scale Scottish train. There was a locomotive, a passenger car, and a small good wagon. The hobby store clerk in Edinburgh, Scotland, where Dennis got the models, assured him it was a typical contemporary consist in some parts of that country.

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is December 5 and the clinic topic is decoder installation. The meeting after that is January 2. Hope to see you on December 5 or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Discusses Track Planning Software on November 7, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Please join us for our next meeting, this Thursday, November 7, when our topic will be track planning software.

We’d all like to extend our thanks to Jim Sabol who came up from the Tacoma area at the last minute to be our clinician last month. Jim’s topic was “Freight Yard Design.”

What I appreciated about Jim’s approach, as opposed to many yard design presentations I have seen over the years, is that he stuck with the basics. This was information any model railroader can use, not just those who have a basement full of track and freight cars to organize. And he kept coming back to the fact that real railroads used yards to help them operate more efficiently, and model railroads should too.

Operations was another theme that kept occurring during the clinic. Jim claims everyone has space for some type of model railroad and any type of model railroad should include some aspect of operations. His basic example was a plain, wooden plank with a couple of turnouts where one could sort cars (just like a real railroad).

Jim’s next example was a long length of track with a single passing siding in the middle. He explained how this could be operated like a real railroad, moving a commodity from one end to the other. Jim reminded us that real railroads don’t move freight cars to make money – they move freight. The cars in Jim’s example were used to move beer, so he instantly had the attendees’ attention.

Of course, once you get beyond a couple of freight cars, moving beer is more efficient if you have a place to store cars that aren’t immediately in use or that cannot be loaded/unloaded right away. That’s where the freight yard starts to come in handy. And it becomes handier still if you have to move more than just one commodity, like food stuffs, building materials, petroleum, and etc. to fulfill the needs and wants of all those workers making the beer you ship.

So, once the need for a freight yard arises, there are a few basic questions to ask:

  • Is it in a convenient location? Prototypically the yard needs to be near the industries and railroad facilities it services. From a model standpoint it needs to be “viewable” and “reachable.”
  • Is there room to work? Typically yards are used to store and sort freight cars. If it needs to handle an average of 15 cars, then it also needs way more than 15 spot to put them in. Generally it is a good idea to leave at least one dedicated track free. This is where trains coming off the mainline can park and where trains getting ready to depart the yard can be assembled. And you’ll need a little free space on the other tracks to facilitate breaking down and assembling trains. Of course, if there are lots of trains coming and going, then you need space to put them until they can be dealt with.
  • Can operations in the yard proceed without tying up the mainline? It is not very efficient to overall operations if the mainline is used every time you pull a length of cars out of a yard track. If at all possible, you need a way to work cars back and forth in the yard without using the mainline. This feature is often called a drill track or yard lead.
  • Is there a way to get the locomotive back in service? Motive power is relatively expensive, so real railroads don’t like to have it “blocked in” by freight cars in the yard. You need a way to get incoming locomotives separated from their train and “back to work”.

Of course, getting all these questions answered affirmatively can be difficult on a model layout. Perhaps there is a way to get a single track feature to do double duty. For example, a run around track designed to get a locomotive off of its arriving train might also be used as the yard lead. Or perhaps a nearby industrial siding can be used to temporarily park a few cars to make more room for sorting in the yard.

Again, thanks to Jim for providing the clinic. It was quite informative.

Oct13 Clinician

For show and tell Dennis T brought a couple of HO box cars custom lettered for the “Shoreline & Puget Sound”. He found them at an estate sale, but no one seemed to know much about them. If you know anything about their history, please add a comment to this entry or drop me an email.

Oct13 Dennis HO

Also, Tom K brought a Maarklin HO model of a German electric locomotive. He indicated he had once actually ridden behind a locomotive like this, and it was definitely not a fast, express train like experience.

Oct13 Tom German Elect

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is November 7 and the clinic topic is track planning software. The meeting after that is December 5 where the scheduled topic will be N scale decoder installation. Hey, if you can install it there, you can install it anywhere! Hope to see you November 7 or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Next Meeting October 3, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Please join us for our next meeting, this Thursday October 3. Unfortunately I am not 100% sure what the program will be. We had a presentation on freeware track planning software lined up, but the clinician hasn’t gotten back to me. Hopefully that will happen, and if not, we’ll look into an unusual video or two.

Last month we did a roundtable of “what I did this summer” (railroad-wise, that is).  There was quite a variety. Probably the most interesting was helping build a model of Puget Sound in someone’s front yard for a TV promo. Supposedly we’ll all see this on the air sometime this fall.

Ted B brought a structure of a small boat builder’s barn. It had won a prize (for humor) with it at the last PNR convention. It was a contest where everyone builds the same kit. Apparently Ted will be arranging to do the same type of contest at the next PNR convention, which we (Fourth Division) are hosting in the late spring of 2014.

The meeting ended with a presentation of pictures taken of the various layouts on display at the National Train Show held in conjunction with this year’s NMRA convention in Atlanta.

By the way, how many of you read the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette?  There is an article in the Sept/Oct 2013 issue about a model of the Gilpin Tramway. Yes, that is the same layout that was part of our tour this past June. I believe it is more impressive in person, than in the magazine – and it looks mighty good in print. Thanks again, Gary and Sherri, for having us over in June.

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is October 3. The meeting after that is November 7. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North 2013-14 Clinic Season Begins September 5, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Can you believe it? The 2013-14 model railroad clinic season is almost upon us. Join us on Thursday, September 5, 2013 for our first clinic of the year. Our topic will be what did you do (model railroading-wise) during the summer. If we have time, I also have some slides of the model railroads set up at this summer’s National Train Show in Atlanta

Our last meeting was in June when we did a layout tour. We tried the self-drive approach as opposed to the group transportation we always used in the past. It seems to have worked pretty well. There were 4 layouts open at slightly different times over the evening.

I found it very educational and low key. There was plenty of time to talk to our hosts and thoroughly appreciate their work instead of feeling rushed to keep up with a group and get on to the next location. If you weren’t there, you missed some fine modeling, including one layout with 3 different gauges of the same scale all working together to deliver goods for the customer.

On behalf of the Seattle-North clinic I’d like to heartily thank our hosts: Richard & Doris, Ron & Judy, Gary & Sherry, plus the Swamp Creek and Western Model Railroad Club. You all contributed to a very entertaining and interesting evening.

And I’d like to personally thank (again) Bobj for doing all the “heavy lifting” to arrange for the availability of these fine layouts.

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, September through June. However in June we often do something different, like a layout tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is September 5. The meeting after that is October 3. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Layout Tour June 6, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

The Seattle-North June layout tours return on Thursday, June 6. 2013. And this year we have made some changes to let more folks participate. We have seen the success Olympia has had with self-guided tours and are going to adopt that scheme, but we are still going to do it on our regular June clinic night. And we are going to keep the destinations secret until the event starts.

The tour starts promptly at 7:00PM in the parking lot of the Edmonds Amtrak station, 211 Railroad Ave, Edmonds, WA. There you will be given directions to other destinations. Four layouts (all in SW Snohomish County) will be available for viewing. Each layout is open for at least 2 hours between 7:00 and 10:00PM. Two of the layouts will be in O scale (one narrow gauge) and two will be in HO (again, one will be narrow gauge).

As with all things in life, some rules apply:

  • You must be an NMRA member (or guest of an NMRA member) to participate.
  • Directions will not be given out in advance. Don’t ask.
  • Carpooling is strongly encouraged.
  • Please be considerate of the layout owners and their neighbors when parking and visiting.
  • There is no charge, so be extra generous in your praise and thank you to those who have made their layouts available.

See you at 7:00PM on the Thursday the 6th.

Seattle-North Clinic: Next Meeting, May 2, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Join us on Thursday (May 2) for our next clinic. Our topic will be railroading in the 1930s.

Last month Tom K regaled us with a nice presentation on the Railway Express Agency (REA). Probably the overview of this organization is the opening paragraph of the Wikipedia article on the same:

The Railway Express Agency (REA) was a national monopoly set up by the United States federal government in 1917. Rail express services provided small package and parcel transportation using the extant railroad infrastructure much as UPS functions today using the road system. The United States government was concerned about the rapid, safe movement of parcels, money, and goods during World War I and REA was its solution to this problem. REA ceased operations in 1975, when its business model ceased to be viable due to the construction of the interstate highway system making the UPS business model cost less to the customers.

Tom’s father had worked for the REA for 35 years and Tom had lots of anecdotes with which to punctuate the discussion. There were railway-related express delivery companies in the U.S. back as 1839. And they flourished through the second half of the 19th century. By 1900 there were 4 principal such companies, three of which were consolidated into the government-run REA in 1917.

In 1927 the REA began an air express division and in 1929 the REA was purchased back from the government by a group of 86 railroads who owned it in proportion to their express traffic volume.

Often REA offices were co-located in depots/stations, but large cities had their own buildings. The REA office (warehouse, really) in Seattle was located SW of the King Street station. It was torn down to make room for the King Dome. It would have been in the east end of the north parking lot.

Tom could remember going there with his Dad. He can also remember his Dad sneaking him aboard a train or two where REA crews would sort packages between stations, much as the Postal crews did in their mail cars.

At its peak the REA had 45,000 employees and some 30,000 offices. It was said that during WWII the REA had the largest truck fleet in the United Sates. It was quite a large organization.

Remember, if you are modeling a period before about 1970, don’t forget to include the presence of the REA.

Thanks, Tom, for an entertaining and informational program.

Just two folks brought stuff for show and tell:

  • Bobj had a Milwaukee diesel, hopper, and caboose which he had used to practice his chalk weathering skills.
  • Tom K provided several pieces of REA memorabilia, including a nice HO delivery truck.
Bobj's Weathered Train

Bobj’s Weathered Train

REA Memorabilia

REA Memorabilia

Apr13 Tom 2

REA Truck Model

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA, on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing Deseret. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings, enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, except July and August. In June we usually do a tour and we’ll talk about that on Thursday. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is May 2. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Clinic – Railway Express Agency – April 4, 2013

By Jeff Moorman

Join us on Thursday (April 4) for our next clinic. Our topic will be the Railway Express Agency (REA). Tom K, whose father was a long time REA employee, will be our presenter.

Last month we took a video cab ride over Donner Pass in Southern Pacific Cab Forward #4274. The video was edited together from several different films shot during the last cab forward run over the pass in November 1957. You sure do get a great view looking out from the front of one of those engines. And there was some great scenery to look at. Also great were some super shots of #4274 and her train.

There were three folks displaying for show and tell:

  • Dennis T brought a couple of N scale ore cars and a N scale Doodlebug into which he had installed a DCC decoder.
  • I brought some photos of a 12 inches to the foot scale Colorado & Southern caboose I saw in Washougal, WA over Presidents’ Day weekend.
  • Rob J displayed more of his seemingly inexhaustible collection of N scale resin vehicles.
Dennis T's Ore Cars and Doodlebug - March 2013

Dennis T’s Ore Cars and Doodlebug – March 2013

Jeff's Caboose Photos

Jeff’s Caboose Photos

More of Rob J's N Scale Vehicles

More of Rob J’s N Scale Vehicles

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA. That is on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location). The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, except July and August. In June we usually do a tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is April 4 and the one after that is May 2. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.

Seattle-North Clinic – Video Cab Ride March 7, 2013

Jeff Moorman

Please come join us on this Thursday, March 7, for our next clinic. Via the magic of video, we’ll be riding aboard Southern Pacific Cab Forward 4274 during its last run over Donner Pass on November 30, 1957.

Last month, our topic was using photography to improve your modeling. This wasn’t about photo backdrops, or creating building plans from photos, or using photo cutouts to mimic 3-D scenery. It was about the value of taking simple snapshots of your layout or individual models and studying them.

A photo stops time. When looking at a photo your brain is not distracted by what surrounds the scene, or is coming into view, or has just left the field of view. You have the opportunity to study the scene at your leisure.

During the clinic we slowly ran through about a dozen layout pictures Jeff took at the recent Pacific Science Center and Monroe Train Shows. So if you were an exhibitor at these shows, and your ears were burning the evening of February 7, it may have been because we were talking about your modeling.

Comments ran the gamut from very positive to “this looks like it could be improved.”  We have some very fine modelers here in the Fourth Division. It is amazing how well their work stands up to the rigors of constant exhibiting – set up, tear down, store, set up, tear down, store, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So, not only is there some excellent craftsmanship, it is sturdy craftsmanship as well.

The only real criteria used for evaluating the modeling was whether or not it looked realistic, regardless of any special themes or the intended audience. Most of the items that caught the clinic attendee’s attention fell into one of three categories: (1) contrast of weathered versus shiny; (2) too sterile of an environment; and (3) unrealistic scenery.

There were several instances of a group of buildings where all but one or two were weathered. But those un-weathered structures stuck out like sore thumbs. Also we saw some examples of weathered sidewalls with very clean roofs. Nature seems to weather most buildings in the same locale uniformly. There were also cases of construction or mining scenes where some of the equipment was dirty and some pristine.

In one photo there was a little town at the edge of the layout. All the buildings were nicely modeled and uniformly weathered, the roads looked realistic, but there were no signs of habitation. There were no figures, no vehicles, no stray dogs, no trash barrels, or any other sign of life. The physical town was very well done, so it was a shame to see it just sitting there like an unused movie set. Similarly there were a couple of photos of industrial scenes with no trash, or clutter, or spare parts, or anything piled outside of the buildings. That doesn’t line up with what you see in the prototype world.

Most of the scenery issues were related to blending the ground into the backdrop. A 90 degree corner just doesn’t seem to cut it, particularly when the color hues do not match. Even background flats do not work well when you can see that 90 degree corner between the buildings, There was an example of a very nice forest scene, but as you approached you could see that all the trees were the same color and same shape, and were constructed in exactly the same way. And occasionally items in the photos just didn’t go together, like a beautifully modeled rocky hillside right next to a grove of plastic, toy trees.

Lastly, we found one of those classic model railroad situations where there was a bridge with no supporting pier.

The above makes it sound like there were all sorts of modeling issues. While there were certainly some opportunities for improvement, there was lots of nicely done work as well. So take a picture of your modeling and study the results. You might be surprised at what you find. And at what you might be able to improve.

Dennis T brought an N Scale Olympia Beer plug door refrigerator car to Show and Tell. It was pretty although no one was quite sure a prototype ever existed. BobJ brought some TT scale equipment he had just acquired. TT is 1:120 (one tenth inch to the foot) and had a fair following in the States before N scale became so popular. It still has practitioners, primarily in Europe.

To my eyes these TT cars looked just like HO scale models from the 50’s, albeit a little smaller. There was a coupler type I had never seen before, but other items were familiar. These included using a wrapper around the tank car, separately applied box car sides with printed detail, and zinc-like castings for the angle bracing and underframes of hoppers.

Dennis' Oly Reefer

Dennis’ Oly Reefer

TT Scale #1

TT Scale #1

TT Scale #2

TT Scale #2

We meet at the Ronald United Methodist Church, 17839 Aurora Avenue North, Shoreline, WA, on the west side of Aurora (State Route 99) between 175th and 185th Streets and more specifically, between the Cadillac dealer on the south and Deseret Industries to the north. Going southbound on Aurora, make a right-hand turn into the church driveway immediately after passing the Deseret location. The parking lot is at the rear of the church. For regular meetings, enter the lower, left side of the church from the rear lot.

Meetings are the first Thursday of each month, except July and August. In June, we usually do a tour. Doors open around 7:00 PM and the program starts at 7:30.

Remember the next meeting is April 4 and the one after that is May 2. Hope to see you there or at least sometime on down the line.